KLCN Interview: Ryan Calejo

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Hey #KidLitCliffNotes readers! I’m excited to share my very first industry interview! Welcome, Ryan.

Ryan Calejo, author of Charlie Hernández and the League of Shadows (2018) and Charlie Hernández and the Castle of Bones (2019), is working on the third installment of his mythical middle grade series. Due to come out 2021 or 2022. He has graciously taken some time out his schedule for this #KidLitCliffsNotes interview.


KLCN: As a reader and writer, I think the best way to a person’s heart is through their bookshelf. What’s the last #kidlit book you read?

RC: That would be Song for a Whale by Lynne Kelly. Great book!

KLCN: The premise sounds fascinating. I’ll definitely add it to the TBR. So I found your first book when searching for Latinx middle grade fantasy. I was immediately taken with the mix of monster and familial mythology. Did you always intend to include myths in the Charlie Hernández series?

RC: I always wanted to tell a story with characters from Latinx myths and folklore. Just like Charlie, I grew up listening to all those amazing stories, thanks to my wonderful abuelitas. In my case, my grandmothers were simply trying to entertain me—to keep me from running everywhere and jumping off things. (I wasn’t exactly the best-behaved kid in the entire world . . . or so I’ve been told.)

KLCN: Ha! Reminds me playing with my brothers and primos. There was always just enough of us for trouble.

RC: Abuelitas’s stories really impacted me. They fed my imagination and made me feel like the supernatural was all around, hiding in plain sight. It was actually those myths that instilled a love of reading, story, and eventually, writing. As I got older, I noticed my friends who’d grown up hearing those same stories had begun to forget them. They’d started to lose this precious connection to their ancestors and to the places their families had come from. So that was one of the big reasons why I wanted to write a series like this.

RC: The other reason was because of my abuelitas. The books are a tribute to them. I wanted them to know that I’d been paying attention, that I appreciated all the time they spent with me, and that I loved the stories they shared. So, yeah, this is a series I’ve wanted to write for a while now.

KLCN: Your love for your abuelitas comes through loud and clear. Even the opening line to League of Shadows starts with Charlie’s abuela. “Myths, my abuela used to say, are truths long forgotten by the world.” Inquiring writers want to know: how many drafts did it take to mine this gem?

RC: That one probably took me two or three drafts. But I wasn’t even at my desk when that line came to me. I was at a friend’s house. I remember jotting it down on a coaster or something and hurrying home to drop it into the manuscript. It’s a twist on something my abuelita’s used to tell me when I was little, so it’s near and dear to my heart.

KLCN: The Abuelitas of the world are known for memorable one liners. So I love how Charlie thinks and speaks in English and Spanish. Any tips for approaching a multi-lingual story?

RC: Thank you! Spanish was actually my first language, and Spanglish is pretty much the official language in South Florida, so it was second nature. But I guess my best tip would be to just go for it. You never know how great something can turn out until you give it a try—and that’s part of the fun!

KLCN: I agree. At first I was hesitant to use any Spanish in my stories because I’m more comfortable with English, but it has helped me tap into a part of my culture that I felt separated from. For writers considering this, I’d recommend running manuscripts by fluent speakers to help catch any gaffes.

KLCN: Let’s talk a little about Charlie and Violet. They make an incredible team and have some chemistry! Were you inspired by any literary duos when building out Charlie and Violet’s characters? Any advice for writers who are also creating duos?

RC: Thank you so much! And that’s such a great question. Can I say Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck? (Just kidding!)

KLCN: You don’t have to convince me that they’re brilliant. Do go on.

RC: It’s difficult to pick out just one, though, I will say that the pair that sprang to mind when I read the question was Jo and Laurie from Little Women. Their relationship is obviously way different than Charlie and Violet’s, but found it interesting. The list is probably endless, though, because I love books with a fun one-two punch. My advice for fellow writers would be to allow the characters to be true to themselves. In other words, don’t force them interact in certain ways, just let it happen. Authentic relationships are one of the most important things when writing a duo.

KLCN: Great advice, Ryan! That goes for writing singular characters as well. Throughout the series, you have wonderful examples of chapter breaks cliffhangers or moments that push the story forward. Did you outline?

RC: I like to write an outline before I begin. It helps to keep me from going off on any wild tangents. No fancy software.

KLCN: I totally get that. I use my notes app for everything. Keep it simple. Now, given the scope of the Latinx mythology covered in your series, I imagine you’d done a lot of research. Can you talk about that?

RC: I keep most of my research in folders (the paper kind) to stay organized. I found some helpful information online and books at my local library for lesser known myths. My favorite method, though, was interviewing family members and friends who knew these stories. A lot of them were raised in the places where the stories originated, so they had plenty of insights! You’d be amazed how much people remember about the myths and legends they heard as children.

KLCN: Oral histories are wonderful! They provide a context and depth that’s usually not captured in any book or website. What’s one piece of advice you wish you knew before writing your middle grade novel?

Don’t stress about daily word counts. Writing should be fun! We write because we love to write! Plus, that’s usually when we do our best work—when we’re enjoying ourselves.

Ryan Calejo

KLCN: Thank you so much, Ryan! Where can #KidLitCliffsNotes readers find more about you?

RC: You can tweet me @thebookglutton. My Instagram is @ryancalejo. I look forward to hearing from all of you!

KLCN: You also were on Boys in Middle Grade the Latinx KidLitBook Festival 2020 panel this past December. Recordings are available. My book review on Book 1 in the series is also available.

RC: And I just want to thank Mel for inviting me on her awesome blog and for all the great questions! ¡Chao, everyone!

KLCN: Adios, Ryan!


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13 comments

  1. This was such an informative and inspiring interview. I enjoyed hearing Ryan’s process and journey. I love Hearing about folklore and myths from other cultures. It encourages me to keep working on my own WIPs. Thanks for sharing this, Mel.

  2. Thanks for showcasing such a wonderful interview, Melissa and Ryan! I love the underlying current Ryan maintains – keeping things simple and fun. What a philosophy all of us could grab hold of and do more of in life! Congrats Ryan on such a promising and cultural book series. Both of you keep up the great work!

  3. I loved reading the interview. Ryan, I feel your writing about forgotten myths is really an important topic. Thank you for sharing tips to create authentic characters. I can’t wait to read this series.

  4. My daughter absolutely loves reading this series! She must of read the first book in less than 2 weeks time! She is currently a 4th grader. It’s so hard to find books now a days to keep kids interested. I had no problem with this series. She loves them. She is currently finishing up the second book. When can we find out when a third comes out? Loved to read all about Ryan’s journey on the creation of these books. Amazing interview. I also come from a Hispanic background and just by having theses books made I can finally share some of those amazing folklore with my daughter. Who by the way is eating them up and having her do her own research on them too!

    1. Wow, Maria that is amazing. I’ll ask Ryan to see if he has anything he can share. I’m so happy she loves reading!

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